Guys. Welcome to Keep On Pushing Radio. I am your host Devon Harris and you know what we do here, we share ideas and insights that hopefully will challenge you and inspire you to live your absolute best life. So look if that’s something that you’re interested in, even remotely then you’re definitely in the right place. So welcome.
So our guest today was never the smartest, he was never the biggest. He was never the most talented, was never the most gifted. In fact the guy failed fifth grade, he watched his parents got divorced, while he himself contemplated suicide. Well, you know what he was though? He was the guy who looked adversity in the face and says ‘Yeah man bring it on’! Bring it on!
It’s because of that relentless attitude that he was able to go from being a walk on to receiving a full scholarship to play division one football at ‘Ole Miss’, University of Mississippi. And then he became a starter on that team and from there, Mr Relentless himself went on to create and develop a very successful speaking and training business. Developed a successful real estate investment company and now is the owner of a crossfit gym. I am so honored, pleased to be able to welcome to the show Richie Contartesi.
DH: Richie thanks for being on Keep On Pushing.
RC: Yeah absolutely, I’m glad to be here. Look I’m really honored to be on a podcast with ‘Cool Runnings’ himself the man the movie was made about. So glad to be here.
DH: Hey it happens man, I know it’s been a few years now since we have been trying to connect and hey what better way to do it than on this podcast you know. Keep On pushing with Mr Relentless so it’s awesome!
You know people will look at you know the picture of success I’m sure is how some people will describe you.
And all they see is a finished product they don’t understand the journey that you had to go through. How long and challenging that journey was. Can you take us back a little bit and tell us about those early days?
RC: Yeah absolutely. So one thing I think it’s actually funny cause like people they really think they look at it and they’re like oh this person got lucky. Or this was easy you know? People will always be jealous of what you have right? But they will never be jealous of what you had to do to get it.
DH: Yeah, that’s true.
RC: You know when you look at somebody and you say hey they’re getting it. But that person like with that relentless mindset they might say hey you know… that person might say you look like you’re successful. You’re doing it but if you have that relentless mindset you don’t ever feel like you’re successful you’re always like what’s next? What’s the next adventure?
RC: But yeah I mean to take you back a little bit…. I mean you did a great job of kind of sharing the back story. But started out fifth grade, I mean my dream was to play college football. Stopped growing at 5′ 7′ 150 pounds so huh —
DH: Sounds like trying to push a Bobsled up hill to me but go ahead.[laughter]
So it was a little bit….. I mean that obviously hurt. The eye test…. high school ended up doing well but always having trouble with competing with other receivers. I played wide receiver and just had trouble competing at a high level. Unfortunately my senior year I broke my ankle and any opportunity went out the window.
RC: Couldn’t go anywhere. Ended up getting one opportunity at a school called Jacksonville University. A school you’ve probably never heard of it’s not even division one.
RC: No scholarships ended up getting cut from that team. After my freshman season a new coach came in and I kind of sat at a crossroads there.
RC: Actually when I broke my arm when I was 12 years old. I met a trainer by the name of Kyle Strong.
I had continued to kind of build this relationship. He saw this kind of relentless attitude, this guy that didn’t quit and didn’t care what other people thought. Zero fear of failure and when I found out I got cut from Jacksonville I always kind of stayed connected with him.
RC: He was a football coach and he ended up getting an internship to coach the football team at ‘Ole Miss‘.
DH: Yeah. Richie before you get into that story. How did the love of football, that desire to play college football started?
RC: Ah man! When I was a kid, me and my best friend we used to just go outside and we always had the football. Obviously in the neighborhood we didn’t really have a lot of like Nintendo’s and all this stuff.
RC: All we had was a football and so we just like literally for hours and hours would play football. If we weren’t playing we were watching football and so it’s just kind of like you know it was —
DH: You just kind of grew into it?
RC: Yeah it was like all that was really there and we just competed and we just loved it . So that’s kind of how it got started.
DH: So you stopped growing you are 5′ 7′ you said?
DH: I am guessing all through grade school you’re playing football but then you failed fifth grade as well. So you’re a small guy, you’re not doing well in school.
What’s going on there?
RC: Yeah school was tough for me. [laughter]
It definitely wasn’t easy.
RC: They said I had dyslexia and ADHD all these things right? I literally just couldn’t sit in my chair I wanted to be outside playing. I couldn’t sit in a classroom, and my fifth grade teacher came up to me and literally said to me and actually my parents that I would never be worth anything.
RC: And she just was like she hated me. I wasn’t the best student so I don’t blame her. But you know school it was really hard for me. It wasn’t something that came natural. So I struggled and I rebelled and I just didn’t like it so um —
RC: You know I was kind of lost in that in that area.
DH: How old were you when you contemplated suicide?
RC: I was in fifth grade.
DH: In fifth grade.
RC: I failed fifth grade just after my parents got divorced. Things weren’t going well right? My parents had split and that was really crazy, because they were arguing and fighting every day. My sister was crying every day and failed fifth grade and I was like told I was not worth anything. So I was just like what’s the point? You know.
DH: Yeah. And it’s you know, for those people who have struggled with depression and you know even contemplated suicide. Fortunately I have never been there so I can’t speak as an expert on this. Obviously it’s a dark time in someone’s life.
RC: For sure, depression is not easy. It’s something that….. I wouldn’t say depression as much as anxiety. Is something that I definitely have challenges with. You know just a lot of it has to do with always wanting to do better and to do more.
Putting a lot of pressure on yourself like people don’t really put pressure on me.
I put a lot of pressure on myself huh —
DH: That’s relentless mindset right there.
RC:Yeah exactly. It’s not easy but I mean it’s like how do we deal with that right?
RC: I think there’s different ways and having goals and having something to go after. Football is what saved me right? That’s what saved me.
DH: So you mentioned goals and you mentioned football. Were you the fifth grade when you went on to line and checked out the requirements to play division one?
RC: Exactly yeah. So while I was going through this rough time….. I still have it.
I printed out the University of Miami of course like one of the hardest academic schools. But I printed out the University of Miami it was like a stack this thick.
RC: Of what the requirements were in order to get in and play college football there. At that time I obviously had no idea what I was doing but that saved my life. Because when I looked at it, I didn’t look at it and say ‘Haha’ I can definitely do that.
RC: I looked at it and I was like maybe I can do this. This isn’t as hard as I thought it would, I don’t need to have straight A’s. And once I printed that out I had like a tangible it was like what you would call, what people call today a vision board right ?
RC: I had tangible ones and I looked at it every day. And it changed the way I thought which subconsciously I did things differently to attract myself closer to it so —
DH: Help me though Richie because it’s pretty remarkable. Here it is that you are in fifth grade you feel like your life sucks. You are contemplating suicide and you had the wherewithal to dream a big dream of going to college. There seems like there’s a disconnect in there somewhere.
RC: I mean like I said, it was the only thing. This was the only thing that made me happy that I loved.
RC: I was lucky enough to have found it. I think what most people do is that even if they do find something that they love or they want, they look at it and they say it’s too difficult and they never do anything.
DH: Yeah. Hmm-Hmmm.
RC: So I was just in a place in my life where literally a young obviously, super young and I had a decision. I was either going to do this or do nothing.
RC: When I looked at that for some reason, I said I can possibly do this. And at that moment like I made a decision, and there was no turning back .There was no Plan B, I was going to do this.
RC: Don’t know how but one day at a time I will figure it out and that’s kind of —
DH: It’s an insightful point you make. Tony Robins speak about making a decision you know? The word “Decide” has two root meanings, ‘DE’ means to cut off from and ‘Cide’ to kill off.
DH: When you and I, or our listeners make a decision when we decide when we cut off any possibility except man ‘this is how it’s going to be’. Then you change your life and that’s a story you’re telling us today.
DH:You made that decision, you cut off any other possibility except this is how it’s going to be. And your life changed. You set some goals which as you said they were kind of beyond you, you didn’t see them as impossible. But they were a little bit beyond you obviously. Right?
DH: And —
DH: Go ahead
RC: No, No. Go ahead.
DH: The lesson here because you know one of the reason we’re talking is because I want to tell your story and highlight the lessons from your experiences. A lot of times people set goals and they don’t set them high enough, they set them low and they hit them.
Yeah they make some progress but they have fallen really short of where they could have been. Or they may see a huge goal and they become intimidated by it. Not realizing that the goal is meant to be big to stretch you out of your comfort zone.
DH: Here it is that you a fifth grader, eleven years old maybe? You are —
RC: Yeah I think it was ten, something like.
DH: So you have your vision board and now you are working, you’re putting the plan in place. You go to a college, Jackson and you get caught and now you are connecting or reconnected with this former coach of yours.
RC: Yeah and that’s why I talk so much about relationships and the importance of you know building relationships. Mutually beneficial relationships and that’s how I got this one, one hour trial at Ole Miss. It’s because of somebody I built a relationship with when I was 12 years old.
Which happened to me in my senior year of high school. Somebody that I can just continue to stick with and he was able to constantly see who I was as a person and that drive. And how bad I wanted it, that why he was able to put himself on the line to get me this shot he felt comfortable…. able to do it. And able to do that right ?
RC: I always feel like how do we build these relationships? Whether you’re an entrepreneur or you’re in sales, you have a job. You want to build better relationships with your kids or your spouse or family members or whoever. I always say think in terms of value and what value are you bringing to that human being.
RC: What are you doing to make that person day a better day. And every interaction that you make. With Kyle everything, every interaction that I made with him, and everything that I did for the most part was always about like value, was always being traded. From him to me, form myself to him.
When it came time, I said “Hey man, I know you are at Ole Miss. This is my last chance to get in.” He was able to make that happen, so I think relationships are huge.
DH: Yeah you are absolutely right. Building those strong relationships, but at the same time the other thing that I am hearing from you though is that because of your character, because he knew you were a worker. That he was not reluctant to go to the coaches at Ole Miss and say hey, “This kid might be a little bit under size in stature but he has a big heart. You need to at least look at him.”
RC: Yeah, he actually told me this when he went to talk to the coaches. He was like he didn’t want to like throw himself under the bus. So when he went talk to the coaches he is like “This guy he is not going to be the biggest. He’s definitely not the most talented or the fastest. But I will tell you what he will do, if you give him a chance to try out I guarantee he’ll make it.” He said “This guy will make everybody around him better, he will make the team better.”
RC: That’s why they gave me a chance, not because how I’m great and all those other stuff right? How big or how talented.
DH: Your body of work leading up to that point. So you got a one hour trial, that’s all they gave you for the rest of your life?
RC: It wasn’t even an hour yeah, just like one shot.
DH: Yeah, how did that work out?
RC: I actually drove all the way up to Mississippi um —
DH: How long was that?
RC: I grew up in South Florida so it was about fifteen hours.
RC: Drove up didn’t even have a place to live. I was literally on my way out, trying to find a place to live, I was like I’m going to school in Ole Miss I guess now, this happened three weeks before the school season started. So I go to Ole Miss, that first day of school.
RC: I was just scared out of my mind man. I was so nervous, walked into the indoor practice facility watched guys like Michael Or from ‘The Blind Side’. Dexter McCluster and all these big guys. I was just like absolutely horrified right?
Like fear of failure, fear of rejection. Fear of what people think about me.
RC: You name it man, I’m just sitting there and I was like I got one shot. One opportunity at this thing, I prepared myself as much as I possibly could and I just went out and did my absolute best.
DH: How did that end up? Did they take you on the team right away?
RC: Alright so I leave the tryouts and I was like “Did I do good? Did I not do good?” I wasn’t really sure.
RC: Finally my phone rings it’s Kyle. So I pick up the phone and he says “Do you want the good news first ? Or the bad news?” I was like, “Just give me the bad news and get it over with.”
He goes “You didn’t make the team.” I was like —
DH: You drove fifteen hours and you didn’t make the team.
RC: I was like, “You better give me that good news right now!”
RC: He goes “You didn’t make the team but the coaches decided they’re going to extend you a one week trial. Basically prove to the coaches that you can take the hits.”
RC: I was like, “Alright. Let’s go. Bring it!” So the next day I walked into the locker room everyone else had a plated locker. I had little this piece of tape with my name written on it.
RC: Some oversized pads and I was I’m just going to go all in. I don’t care what people think and that’s what I talk about this relentless mindset.
RC: That’s what the whole brand is about. We can’t care what people think.
Do you have kids?
DH: Yeah. Hmm-Hmm.
RC: Alright,how old are your kids?
DH: Oh, I have five. So from 29, 22,21,12 and 9. So—
RC: Holy smokes! [laughter]
DH: Yea man, they say make hay while the sun shine. It’s been sunny.[laughter]
RC: Yeah that’s awesome. Good for you.
DH: Thank you, that’s the best thing in my life though. Being a dad, absolutely.
RC: Yeah. Awesome. Hey I actually have one on the way so first one —
DH: Nice, Congrats!
RC: So— [laughter]
DH: How soon? —
DH: How soon? How soon? You said you —
RC: I got nine weeks left.
RC: Yeah, yeah. So soon.
DH: Going to be a wild ride.
RC: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah I always say this, you look at kids. You look at a two year old they have zero fear of failure
RC: They don’t care at all what people think and they are relentless until they get what they want at all costs.
RC: They just do not care what people think and we’re only born with two fears. We are born with the fear of falling and the fear about noises. Over time we learn that being wrong is bad, we learn that failing is bad. We embody this and it literally shapes who we are as people. I think that the people that can let go and reignite that relentless drive and passion that they once had, and just don’t care what people think and have zero fear are the ones that break through barriers and obstacles that get in our way right?
RC: I sat there and I was like I got one shot left. I mean I got to walk out that tunnel out onto the field with Michael Or from The Blind Side. I have to have zero fear and I can’t care what people thin. I can’t worry about the linebacker crew laughing at me and rejecting me.
RC: I can’t have fear of the unknown, what if I get hurt? I just said, I just let go and just unleashed and ran out onto the field and did my absolute best.
DH: That was your one week trial.
DH: How was things after that? What happened?
RC: Yeah so one week trial ended up making the team of course. Head coach Ed Orgeron who’s now the head coach at LSU came up to me on Friday. Our last practice actually was Thursday afternoon. He came up to me put his arm around me and he was like dang! He’s like I wasn’t expecting that .
RC: I literally would find the biggest guy and run full speed and try to hit him
RC: All the drills, I had to prove myself and so that whole year built this whole reputation ended the season. Head coach gets fired [laughter]
Ed Orgeron gets fired.
RC: I come back new head coach and I had to do exactly what I did the first year all over again.
And then the second year because I was a small guy, I was a walk on. I was right back on the practice squad again.
RC: Going into my senior year was like this is it, I got one shot left. I spent that whole summer in the head coach’s office trying to find out what I can do. I was in the weight room every day, in the film room every day. One the field working on my craft every day, and doing all this even though I wanted to quit every day like—
RC: I was like there’s no way I’m going to play. There’s no way this is going to work out .
DH: If I could stick a pin there. Talk to me a little bit about that, because what I’m hearing is a guy who’s hungry. A guy who’s working really hard and just can’t seem to catch a break. It’s like you get over the hump and then there’s another obstacle in the way. Um —
DH: So when that happens to us in our lives and you feel like man and I can’t catch a break, or you feel like throwing in the towel.
What are you saying to yourself ? What should our listeners or viewers be saying to themselves during those times?
RC: Yeah so it’s like one of those things where I walk out onto the field and I’d be holding my helmet right? I’d be saying to myself like you’re not good enough to be here, you’re not talented to be out here. You are not big enough.
RC: This is what I call you know, I used to call it a delusional mindset. But now I call it a relentless mindset, and that’s like I don’t know. I don’t know, Devon. I don’t really know why or how this is going to work out in the end.
RC: I just trust that it will. It sucked man.
RC: There were some practices, I didn’t want to go to practice that day. I just didn’t want to, but at the end of the day I got up and I went I mean anyways. I didn’t know why, it was like this delusional, relentless mindset that said “Hey Richie, I don’t care how you feel or what you think’s going to happen. Just stick it out and see what– and I just felt like it would work out. I didn’t know how, who was going to quit.
RC: What was going to happen but I was going to get my shot like I just— I just you —
DH: You made two really important points Richie. People see athletes whether they’re pro athletes or the Olympics or what-not. Think they are just having the best life ever. They’re doing something that they absolutely love and they don’t know that there are days when you just do not want to go to practice right? But you make yourself do it anyway because you recognize and you know what the end goal is. In our lives maybe it’s the sales guy who just doesn’t want to make that one call.
DH: Whether to pick the phone up or go knock on the door. Or whatever it is, but if you’re keeping the end in mind, you’re going to get up just like that athlete does.
You use the word delusional, would you believe apart from keep on pushing. Every interview that I’ve done on this program the word delusional comes up.
There seems to be something about that right? I think when you set a big ridiculous goal, you have to be delusional to think you can accomplish it.
DH: Because there’s nothing in your past and there’s certainly nothing in your present that may suggest that it’s possible.
Except what’s going on up here.
DH: Especially if you’re 5′ 7′ and you’re trying to play the division one football against Michael Ora right? [laughter]
DH: I think the delusion gives rise to the relentlessness or is it the other way around?
I’m not sure, it’s a chicken or egg kind of situation here but yeah.
RC: Yeah I called it a delusional mindset because like, I couldn’t put a name to it.
RC: Then as I started thinking and I started understanding more about what really embodies a relentless human being. Why Tom Brady exists? Why does Michael Jordan and Colby and Dwayne Wade and Steve Jobs. How are these people able to achieve these levels of success? But then continue to do it over and over again.
RC: That’s how I found relentless and I think delusional it’s a word because it’s like we’re like I don’t know. I don’t understand why it’s just the way that we felt right?
DH: Yeah yeah. I look at that too, I remember I used to say it to people. I may be delusional but I think I’m going to make it to the Olympics. I want to go to the Olympics I may be delusional but I think I have the ability to win a medal right?
Okay I didn’t win a medal but I thought it, and I believed it. I felt that it was possible, I think to achieve these goals to get from wherever it is any of us are starting from. We all start from different places but we all have the ability and we all dream about grandeur so-to-speak.
DH: Yeah you had to be delusional to be relentless or to keep on pushing.
RC: For sure
DH: You go through all that and it’s your senior year. What’s going down there?
RC: So senior year I had been practicing on special teams all summer just trying to do whatever I could to find a spot. Finally I got a spot on special teams. You know, I spent three years on Thursday after practice, running to the board where they post the dress list for the game. I was like if I can just get a spot on special teams I can get on that list.
RC: The goal was to be able to travel and go to the games and be on the sidelines. When I say travel that’s home games too in college
RC: Travel home games.
RC: And finally I got that spot on special teams and during the season or during the camp before the season, there’s some things that I did really well and some recruits that just didn’t. I started earning a spot outside of special teams and one thing led to another and yeah…….so the final scrimmage before camp where I was warming up and I got a tap on my shoulder and I turn around and it was the head coach.
RC:He said to me Richie you have given me no choice you’re now in scholarship congratulations! That’s when I found out.
DH: Right. What did that moment feel like?
RC: Ah man! It’s like that moment when, even if you’ve been working on something it’s not something easy. But something you have been working on for a long time and you get it, and you get like those tingles that go down your head and your neck.
Like I just wanted to like call my dad and call my mom. I was so excited, after the scrimmage I ran to my truck and calling my dad and calling my mom.
I was just like super excited and it was just that feeling of like “I did it!”
RC: You know what I mean? I thought about that Miami packet and I was like it actually happened, [laughter].
It did yeah, it was ten years later right?
RC: But it happened.
DH: It takes time for dreams to blossom into reality and that’s the thing that people that don’t recognize. It’s ten years of literally sweat and blood, blood and sweat for you.
Ten years of frustration, ten years of always having an obstacle every time you thought you are going to be making a move forward. Ten years of ‘One step forward, Two steps back’.
DH: But, I think what your story clearly demonstrate Richie is that success is possible for all of us. No honest person would say it’s easy you know?
There’s nothing in the stories you were just telling me that sounded easy.
DH: But now you’r are street so to speak as far as all the work that you have done because it has sets you up now to push yourself to the next level. Talk to me a little about post college life.
RC: Yes so got out of college moved straight to New York City actually.
RC: End up working in sales, did pretty well ended up winning the rookie of the year belt at a fortune 500 company on their sales team. After two years I was like I want to start my own thing.
RC: Went down to Santiago, Chile. Tried to get a government grant, key word “tried”.
RC: Moved down there for six months and nothing worked out and the business that we started failed. I started with two other people, so moved back to New York lived on two different friends’ couches over probably about a five-month period trying to get something started.
RC: I worked all day all night. My buddy was building websites and I was trying to get him business to do it.
RC: It just was extremely difficult and then I did that for about maybe four to six months. Then moved down to Virginia because I literally was down, I had no money left I was out.
RC: Lived in my dad’s basement for about a year, while I built up this website business with my buddy. After about a year I had enough money where I could get my own place, I moved to a place that was pretty inexpensive, Naples Florida.
I missed Florida but couldn’t live in Palm Beach, too much.
RC: I found Naples Florida moved down there and started building this business and I couldn’t get it off the ground. I just didn’t know what I was doing, I didn’t have the right mindset didn’t have enough money to work with or play with.
I could have done other things but I didn’t do it right now I know.
RC: I should have done a better job of finding the right people to surround myself the right mentors. Once we just had two months of no clients and we were almost out of money, and I was like I can’t pay my rent.
My partner would quit on me, and I had this like epiphany at that point where I was like I’ve been here before.
RC: I was I know how to handle this, I’ll figure this out. That month I ended up, without him, closed three of the biggest website deals that we had ever done.
RC: I was like here we go, I got to find somebody who can do this now right?
DH: [laughter] Yeah
RC: I found people to do it and then I started building up and got bigger and bigger and bigger. I moved back to me New York, got to New York.
I had already started writing my book a while back, the book started coming out and I started telling people and sharing people in it. When I started getting out there and it hit number one on amazon people started requesting me to come out and speak.
RC: I started out speaking at middle schools and high schools, then one thing led to another. The teachers were like hey we really love your message and what you’re sharing.
RC: We needed to hear that, so I was like, “ah okay.” I started doing corporate events and that built out and build out now I’m really focused on corporate events. Doing sales teams or I’ll do conferences with entrepreneurs.
It’s the same thing then what I learned in football is the same thing I learned in speaking.
RC: Other than speaking ,I started investing in real estate and it’s the same thing. We’ve hit rock bottom, we figured it out we overcame. It’s the same thing with the gym we had issues, problems. I am building out a brand new location, I have a great team. And now our next step is to start franchising it.
It’s the same concepts, it’s just at the end of the day there’s times when I was going to the gym where I was like I just want it to be done.
I want to sell it, I want to be done I don’t want to think about it anymore.
RC: This is too scary, too fearful. I am going to lose too much money and at the end of the day I just woke up and I was like I’m just going to do a little bit more.
DH: Right. —
RC: I will just do a little bit more.
DH: [laughter] It sounds to me and I think the pattern that’s common to every successful person right. If you go through and you read biographies what you see is struggle, struggle, struggle.
A little bit of success or some success, more struggle, struggle, struggle more success. And you learn as you just said that it’s the same principles is the word I would use, that you apply to one area of your life in order to succeed. That you can then apply to another area or other areas of your life to succeed as well so that’s awesome.
DH: So yeah, you have been through some challenging times but I think what those experiences have done is left you with some amazing stories that you can use obviously to inspire yourself. To keep being relentless and push yourself to the next level. But to help other people do the same thing. Because, I’m sure you have had this experience where you look at someone and you go wow! If they can do it then I can do it. Have you?
RC: A hundred percent.
DH: Yeah I think what’s great about your story is that someone will look at you and go wow! You know what if a 5′ 7′ guy can play division one football on a scholarship, I can do this too. It’s not so hard.
DH: I appreciate your time, I appreciate you hanging out with us. Now you’re working primarily with entrepreneurs, sales teams to teach them the relentless mindset?
RC: Exactly yeah. So mainly focusing with working with corporations and coming in and working with their sales teams. Usually we will have sales kickoff or sales events they will bring me in to speak. I kind of help them with the tools and relentless mindset needed to get to that next level.
RC: We would do conference’s where they will have a lot of entrepreneurs or a lot of sales people and again will come in and do keynotes and stuff like that
DH: Hmm-hmm. Hmm-Hmm.
DH: Tell our listeners where they can find you if they want to be inspired with this relentless mindset.
RC: Absolutely. Easiest website ready? RelentlessRichie.com.
DH: RelentlessRichie.com. That is easy I thought mine was easy.
DH: But yours is easy.
RC: Richie, Relentless Richie.
DH: So folks RelentlessRichie.com. It’s an amazing story as you can hear.
Richie is Passionate, Engaging, Powerful. He is really everything you are looking for in a speaker, an amazing story and the ability to tell that story.
Relentless Richie mindset, sorry. RelentlessRichie.com
RC: Yeah. [laughter]
DH: RelentlessRichie.com. Check him out. Relentless Richie I am appreciative. Thank you so much for sharing your relentless mindset on Keep On Pushing. We wish you all the success man, keep on being not being relentless.
RC: Awesome, thank you. It was really a pleasure being here and I wish all your viewers a lot of success as well, so thank you.
DH: Yeah, thank you. Keep on Pushing Richie.
This has been a keep on pushing moment.
I am Devon Harris
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